Boz to the Future Episode 18: The Future According to Matthew Ball
Welcome back for another episode of Boz To The Future, a podcast from Reality Labs. In today’s episode, our host, Meta CTO and Head of Reality Labs Andrew “Boz” Bosworth, is joined by Epyllion CEO, technologist, investor, and author of The Metaverse Matthew Ball.
Ball captured the tech industry’s attention with his insightful and incisive deep dives into industry trends, and his essay about the metaverse was so wildly popular that he expanded it into a book. Since its initial publication, the book has become a bestseller, has been translated into various languages, and is poised to be re-released in a fully revised and updated edition. The new edition will take into account some of the massive changes that have taken place in the industry in recent years, especially in accelerated areas like AI, 3D graphics, consumer hardware, and XR.
Together, Ball and Bosworth cover a range of topics, from the hype cycle and disillusionment surrounding the concept of the metaverse to its as-of-yet unfulfilled promise, potential, and ultimate inevitability. The two draw parallels between the ascendance of the mobile phone and the emergence of novel technologies today, like head-mounted displays (HMDs) and AI-centric devices.
You can tune in to Boz to the Future on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen to podcasts.
You can follow Bosworth on Instagram, Twitter/X, and Threads @boztank. Follow Matthew Ball on Twitter/X and Threads and pick up a copy of The Metaverse at your favorite bookstore.



